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i'm worried about the impact on our economy and on transportation. you know, the election will take care of itself next week. right now our number one priority is to make sure that we are saving lives. >> put that in perspective what we just heard. i mean, give me a real world look at what we just heard. the president of the united states being rewarded from a republic republican, chris christie and i see the president very cool right there. very cool. >> there is always a big point of emphasis, when they recruited fugate to do that and signed off on jeb bush to do this, there was this hangover from katrina going back in the bush administration and there's always been a point of emphasis, if you will, on fema by the obama administration. i think frankly it won't have mattered who came into the presidency in the post katrina world there was going to be an emphasis on fema. you weren't going to let that get politicized. yes, it's a political appointee and you're going to have somebody who came with a background to do this stuff. so i think that they re
i'm worried about the impact on our economy and on transportation. you know, the election will take care of itself next week. right now our number one priority is to make sure that we are saving lives. >> put that in perspective what we just heard. i mean, give me a real world look at what we just heard. the president of the united states being rewarded from a republic republican, chris christie and i see the president very cool right there. very cool. >> there is always a big point...
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i'm worried about the impact on our economy and on transportation. you know, the election will take care of itself next week. right now our number one priority is to make sure that we are saving lives. >> well, that was answered rather well. what do you think, john? >> well, you know, it's often said that president obama is too cool, too calm. and yet here you see it playing perfectly. this is a calm, focused president of the united states. not -- no hyper bolly, big theater, talking people through a very difficult situation, in a way that they would want to be talked to, as adults, responsible people, pay attention, be cool. and then when the election comes up, being able to say, look, my focus is on people's safety. if we're honest with each other, we also know that the president of the united states has in the back of their head in reality there is an election in a week. but this puts, to my mind, barack obama's strongest position. he is very good at a moment like this. and so i think americans are, for better or worse, if we understand politics,
i'm worried about the impact on our economy and on transportation. you know, the election will take care of itself next week. right now our number one priority is to make sure that we are saving lives. >> well, that was answered rather well. what do you think, john? >> well, you know, it's often said that president obama is too cool, too calm. and yet here you see it playing perfectly. this is a calm, focused president of the united states. not -- no hyper bolly, big theater,...
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i'm worried about the impact on our economy and transportation. the election will take care of itself next week. >> federal, state and local governments do have the luxury of taking care of the storm next week. the country will still be feeling the effects of sandy tomorrow and in the days to come and a lot of it is going to depend on people's emotions when their power is out for numerous days. joining me now is tom in delaware. you have been there all day, are the conditions deteriorating? what's it like at this hour? >> reporter: let me give you a look at what's going on behind me. this is the high tide that the governor was very worried about. he says this is going to be the crunch time for the state of delaware, especially for the coastal areas. this area is under a mandatory e evacuation order. 50,000 residents so far in the past couple days have been evacuated from this area. because of the high tide they are anticipating that much of the water will be pushed on shore. so far they believe the coastal infrastructure is in place. they believe
i'm worried about the impact on our economy and transportation. the election will take care of itself next week. >> federal, state and local governments do have the luxury of taking care of the storm next week. the country will still be feeling the effects of sandy tomorrow and in the days to come and a lot of it is going to depend on people's emotions when their power is out for numerous days. joining me now is tom in delaware. you have been there all day, are the conditions...
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but i hope people look at the big picture and look at issues like economy and jobs and make a decision based on that. >> to both governor dean, you first. who do you see as being moderately minded, openly minded, all of that, that you think democrats and republicans can work together? >> i'm sure there are some, but, unfortunately, the past few weeks, the people who don't have those open minds are the ones who have gotten all of the headlines, you can define a party based on the fringes. i like the basic -- the basic formaft our party. we care about people, we're interested in all people, not just a few. i'm not a republican, because the fringe of the republican party, a pretty significant group. really preaches hate. i don't think that's right. i also thank joe for his being standup about sununu's remarks, and i respect joe, not because i support mitt romney, which i certainly don't, because he does, and he does it for the right reasons, and i think, joe, you've been very helpful just now in trying to mitigate some of the hurtful comments that have been made. i think after the electio
but i hope people look at the big picture and look at issues like economy and jobs and make a decision based on that. >> to both governor dean, you first. who do you see as being moderately minded, openly minded, all of that, that you think democrats and republicans can work together? >> i'm sure there are some, but, unfortunately, the past few weeks, the people who don't have those open minds are the ones who have gotten all of the headlines, you can define a party based on the...
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i'm worried about the impact on our economy. and on transportation. you know, the election will take care of itself next week. right now, our number one priority is to make sure that we are saving lives, that our search and rescue teams are going to be in place, people will get the food, the water, the shelter that they need in case of emergency and that we respond as quickly as possible to get the economy back on track. >> what kind of -- [ inaudible ]. >> that was president obama at the white house issuing a stern warning to americans about the severity of the storm. hurricane sandy traveling, of course, up the east coast. you know, lawrence, you listen to the president and think about the magnitude of this storm, the millions without power this is the end of the election. this is what is going to be dot nom dant narrative. >> the campaign could be functionally over as we know it. the aftermath could easily go on into saturday and there isn't -- the sunday, monday before the tuesday election is usually just a certain kind of fly around that people i
i'm worried about the impact on our economy. and on transportation. you know, the election will take care of itself next week. right now, our number one priority is to make sure that we are saving lives, that our search and rescue teams are going to be in place, people will get the food, the water, the shelter that they need in case of emergency and that we respond as quickly as possible to get the economy back on track. >> what kind of -- [ inaudible ]. >> that was president obama...
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i'm worried about the impact on our economy and on transportation. you know, the election will take care of itself next week. right now, our number one priority is to make sure that we are saving lives, that our search and rescue teams are in place that, people are going to get
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mitt romney's plan rolls back regulations on the banks that crashed our economy. medicare voucherized. >> president obama also talking about avoiding the fiscal cliff which would trigger tax hikes and spending cuts two short months from now. he says he wants to work with congressional republicans on it. >> i've said to folks, i'll go to capitol hill. i'll wash john boehner's car. i'll walk mitch mcconnell's dog. i'll do whatever is required to get this done. >> president obama heads to new hampshire a bit later today for a stop in nashua. vice president biden is scheduled to hold an event in lynch burg, virginia. >>> now we go to ohio where nbc's ron mott is on that bus tour with paul ryan. hello to you ron again. where are you in the many stops on that bus tour today? >> reporter: hey there, alex. i've got to get my back stretched out. we've got five stops as you mentioned here today. three more tomorrow. eight in total. 400 plus miles over the next two days with paul ryan. right now we're in janesville, ohio. just wrapping up a speech here. a lot of people are w
mitt romney's plan rolls back regulations on the banks that crashed our economy. medicare voucherized. >> president obama also talking about avoiding the fiscal cliff which would trigger tax hikes and spending cuts two short months from now. he says he wants to work with congressional republicans on it. >> i've said to folks, i'll go to capitol hill. i'll wash john boehner's car. i'll walk mitch mcconnell's dog. i'll do whatever is required to get this done. >> president obama...
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plus, what all this means for the economy and presidential race. we have all the angles of this developing story right here on "the cycle." throughout the show we share some of the stunning images from this storm. these were taken by a producer as she walked into work this morning. the front of a building ripped off by the wind in lower manhattan. [ male announcer ] whe emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 after that, it's on to germany. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 then tonight, i'm trading 9500 miles away in japan. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 with the new global account from schwab, tdd#:
plus, what all this means for the economy and presidential race. we have all the angles of this developing story right here on "the cycle." throughout the show we share some of the stunning images from this storm. these were taken by a producer as she walked into work this morning. the front of a building ripped off by the wind in lower manhattan. [ male announcer ] whe emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in...
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he never truly understood how jobs are created and the economy. and, of course, today he is now making new promises. promises he will be unable to keep because he dmidz admits that he will stay on the same path he's been on. and the same course we have been on will not lead to a better destination. >> the same path we're on means $20 billion in four years. it means crippling unemployment continues. it means stagnant take home pay, dedepressed home values and a devastated military. and unless we change course, we may well be looking at another recession. the question of this election comes down to this. do you want more of the same or do you want real change? and we choose real change. candidate obama promised change, but he couldn't deliver it. i promised change, but i have a record of achieving it. i built the business. i turned around another. i helped put an olympics back on track. and with a democrat legislature, i helped turn my state from deficit to surplus, from job losses to job gains. from higher taxes to higher take-home pay. this is why
he never truly understood how jobs are created and the economy. and, of course, today he is now making new promises. promises he will be unable to keep because he dmidz admits that he will stay on the same path he's been on. and the same course we have been on will not lead to a better destination. >> the same path we're on means $20 billion in four years. it means crippling unemployment continues. it means stagnant take home pay, dedepressed home values and a devastated military. and...
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not have to bear the financial hit and overridingly the objective in my view has to be to prevent the economy from suffering damage, job growth and economic problem, which we've had in this state shouldn't be impeded by the cost of recovery. waurtss may be receding and the emotional chantix. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these stop taking chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of depression or other mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these stop taking chantix and see your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. if y
not have to bear the financial hit and overridingly the objective in my view has to be to prevent the economy from suffering damage, job growth and economic problem, which we've had in this state shouldn't be impeded by the cost of recovery. waurtss may be receding and the emotional chantix. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to...
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plenty of folks running for congress at the time said it would hurt the economy. that it would kill jobs. and if that argument sounds familiar, one of those candidates back then happens to be running for president right now. and it turns out, their math was just as bad back then as it is today because, by the end of bill clin totoclinton's turn am created 23 million jobs. the biggest surplus in our history. wisconsin we know the ideas that work. we also know the ideas that don't work. because in the eight years after bill clinton left office his policies were reversed. the wealthiest americans got tax cuts they didn't need, and that we couldn't afford. companies enjoyed tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas, insurance companies, oil companies, wall street given free license do what they pleased. folks, at the top got to play by a different set of rules than the rest of us. and result of this top-down economics was falling incomes, record deficits, smallest job growth in a half century and economic crisis that we've been cleaning up for the last four years. now, in
plenty of folks running for congress at the time said it would hurt the economy. that it would kill jobs. and if that argument sounds familiar, one of those candidates back then happens to be running for president right now. and it turns out, their math was just as bad back then as it is today because, by the end of bill clin totoclinton's turn am created 23 million jobs. the biggest surplus in our history. wisconsin we know the ideas that work. we also know the ideas that don't work. because...
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in terms of the economy, 52% of ohio likely voters say it's getting better, 17% say worse, 30% say staying the same. 52% is not a bad number for the president. >> it's not a bad number and ohio is key as we know. to go to your first question of what does sandy mean. it means a lot more in kind of a raw economic sense to the east coast than the rest of the country. it makes the president look presidential. and it underscores that point i mentioned previously about big government or bigger government or a government. >> some government. >> some nonprivate sector thing. >> and i really do think that that's been an underpinning of this campaign. do we want -- do we feel we need to pitch in together, want a government helping us or willing to go it alone. it underscores that point. >> i -- 52% of the state saying it's getting better this is the other thing. i don't understand this, maybe one of you do. when asked about who cares about people like you, 62% of ohioans say obama does care, 44% say romney cares. does not care obama gets 36, romney gets 52. here's what i don't understand. if you don
in terms of the economy, 52% of ohio likely voters say it's getting better, 17% say worse, 30% say staying the same. 52% is not a bad number for the president. >> it's not a bad number and ohio is key as we know. to go to your first question of what does sandy mean. it means a lot more in kind of a raw economic sense to the east coast than the rest of the country. it makes the president look presidential. and it underscores that point i mentioned previously about big government or bigger...
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that's essentially the idea the auto bailout is aside, president obama failed on the economy. they give independents personal cover. if they look, it's okay to like the guy. they're trying to claim that mantle of change candidate for governor romney in each stops. >> we read ato lead doe headline that voters are angry with the position with the auto bailout. they're standing by this ad and continue to attack regarding the jobs going to china. other than says it's troou, what proof are they providing here other than just their word? >> the romney campaign is walking a very fine line when it comes to this ad. a strategicist and advisers to the campaign say in the actual ad we say jeep will manufacture vehicles in china. they don't say they'll do it to the extent of jobs in the united states. they don't say they won't do as well in the united states. that line alone is actually true. whether you want to draw connections and saw this is at the expense of american jobs, maybe you could make that assumption. they're trying to walk a fine line with this ad, and it was really striking
that's essentially the idea the auto bailout is aside, president obama failed on the economy. they give independents personal cover. if they look, it's okay to like the guy. they're trying to claim that mantle of change candidate for governor romney in each stops. >> we read ato lead doe headline that voters are angry with the position with the auto bailout. they're standing by this ad and continue to attack regarding the jobs going to china. other than says it's troou, what proof are...
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romney has made the rebuilding the economy his number one campaign priority, and rightly so. this marks the very first time the paper has endorsed a republican since richard nixon. that was in 1972. joining me now is rick green of "the des moines register." it's great to have you with me. your paper did endorse mitt romney over the weekend. as i read from your blog and other reasons why that happened, you said the transparency was key to that selection. romney recently appeared in ohio claiming that jeep was moving production to china and has doubled-down with a new ad. i want to show everybody what that new ad looks like. >> obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians building jeeps in china. >> chrysler issued a statement last week saying jeep has intention of shifting production of jeep models out of the north america to china. this president said this election is about trust. we have chrysler saying that romney was flat-out wrong, but he's still pushing this issue. do you believe that governor romney for the readers of "the register" is the ca
romney has made the rebuilding the economy his number one campaign priority, and rightly so. this marks the very first time the paper has endorsed a republican since richard nixon. that was in 1972. joining me now is rick green of "the des moines register." it's great to have you with me. your paper did endorse mitt romney over the weekend. as i read from your blog and other reasons why that happened, you said the transparency was key to that selection. romney recently appeared in...
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no, but it's definitely about jobs and the economy. are you kidding me? the voracity of where jeeps are made in ohio or in china tells you everything you need to know about what this election is all about. this election comes down to the question of whether all the jeeps are going to be made in toledo or whether some of are also going to be made in china. that's the election in a nutshell. the jeep, not the storm, but the jeep is really the symbol of this election. >> howard, if you can be a fly on the wall in boston and chicago at the same time -- >> i've tried. >> -- where do you think they would feel more benefit from the race being frozen, knocked off the a-block and the headline? the president getting to perform the job, be the commander in chief and romney reduced to figure out what to do here and make the campaign events and relief events, when's feeling more benefit from the way the race has turned in the last week? >> i think actually neither headquarters is under the allusion that sandy is a huge factor. i think they're trying to ignore it in th
no, but it's definitely about jobs and the economy. are you kidding me? the voracity of where jeeps are made in ohio or in china tells you everything you need to know about what this election is all about. this election comes down to the question of whether all the jeeps are going to be made in toledo or whether some of are also going to be made in china. that's the election in a nutshell. the jeep, not the storm, but the jeep is really the symbol of this election. >> howard, if you can...
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depending on what model you look at, sandy could cost the economy billions. we will examine the financial fallout when cnbc's an drew ross sorkin joins the panel next on "now." [ male announcer ] humana and walmart have teamed up to bring you a low-priced medicare prescription drug plan. ♪ with a low national plan premium... ♪ ...and copays as low as one dollar... ♪ ...saving on your medicare prescriptions is easy. ♪ so you're free to focus on the things that really matter. call humana at 1-800-808-4003. or go to walmart.com for details. call humana at 1-800-808-4003. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. >>> while officials are primarily focused on rescue efforts and restoring power to the 7 million people without it they are also starting to assess the catastrophic economic consequences of hurricane sandy. disaster mo
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that will get this economy going. we'll have a very different future when i get elected with your help. [ cheers and applause ] i want you to know i'm confident about the future. i'm optimistic. i think our future is going to be brighter than the past. i know we've had a glorious past as a nation. i know we're going through tough times right now. sometimes we tend to think what we're in is the way it will always be. it's going to change. we need real change. for real change, we're going to have to take a different course. i think that's what americans are going to do on november 6th. i believe that one of the things that will drive this country forward is the character and heart of american people. that's where my confidence comes from. we're a patriotic, hard-working, creative, risk-taking, business-starting, education-seeking people. it's who we are. i have, throughout my life, seen some of the great qualities in the human spirit in the american people i've come to know. there's some stories i love to tell that desc
that will get this economy going. we'll have a very different future when i get elected with your help. [ cheers and applause ] i want you to know i'm confident about the future. i'm optimistic. i think our future is going to be brighter than the past. i know we've had a glorious past as a nation. i know we're going through tough times right now. sometimes we tend to think what we're in is the way it will always be. it's going to change. we need real change. for real change, we're going to have...
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i'm worried about the impact on our economy and on transportation. the election will take care of itself next week. right now, our number one priority is to to make sure that we are saving lives that are search and rescue teams will be in place and people will get the food, the water shs the shelter they need in case of emergency and we respond as quickly as possible to get the economy back on track. >> the election will take care of itself. that was president obama addressing reporters earlier today at the white house. this is one of the things you can't really predict in terms of the effect on a presidential campaign. this massive storm, a storm of more than regional, basically national significance. it's hit the pause button on a presidential campaign. it's hard to know how it's going to play out exactly. mostly because we don't know what the overall impact of the storm itself is going to be. the defacto suspension of the campaign itself today and the handling of this crisis by president obama and to a lesser extent mitt romney made themselves be
i'm worried about the impact on our economy and on transportation. the election will take care of itself next week. right now, our number one priority is to to make sure that we are saving lives that are search and rescue teams will be in place and people will get the food, the water shs the shelter they need in case of emergency and we respond as quickly as possible to get the economy back on track. >> the election will take care of itself. that was president obama addressing reporters...
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the republicans are saying this isn't good enough and the economy is at a standstill. democrats are saying look, we want to build on the progress that we're making. and so it is slow, but steady progress here and i think you have to look at some of the internal numbers here, 500,000 new people joined the labor force in the last month and look at these revisions over the previous months, in august, they revised from 142,000 jobs gained to 192,000 jobs gained. in september revised from 114,000 to 148,000 jobs gained. so big increases in the past month and that reflects a trend of jobs increasing in this country across the board. >> as a dorky bls question for you, which is the revision of these numbers, first of all, that's a pretty significant revision in august from 142 to 192,000 jobs. and even september, 114,000 to 148,000 jobs. are those kind of revisions traditional? i mean is that usually what happens when be we look at -- we're scrutinizing these numbers in a way we wouldn't be in 2011 and 2010 but are jumps like that normal? >> they are. you see revisions as a s
the republicans are saying this isn't good enough and the economy is at a standstill. democrats are saying look, we want to build on the progress that we're making. and so it is slow, but steady progress here and i think you have to look at some of the internal numbers here, 500,000 new people joined the labor force in the last month and look at these revisions over the previous months, in august, they revised from 142,000 jobs gained to 192,000 jobs gained. in september revised from 114,000 to...
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or leader to the economy in a government role. is that what we are seeing, a mismatch? >> that is a problem for mitt romney. this is the republicans best argument, reality based, identifying a problem that we are all experiencing. it is a very real problem. it is not one the president can dispute. it is their best argument. john dewey always said, a problem well-stated is a problem half-solved. we do agree, we must agree that the jobs crisis is one of the core policy choices of the era we are live willing in and perhaps for some time. that's number one. number two goes back to the segment we just did on romney. what does the romney era look like? there, i have to echo neera. what is your solution to the problem? you just played the five points. they do not deal with domestic spending in a way that most economists think will jump-start jobs. republicans have some economists and studies on their side. there are studies out that show what the republicans have managed to do with the power they are wielding has actually raised unemploy
or leader to the economy in a government role. is that what we are seeing, a mismatch? >> that is a problem for mitt romney. this is the republicans best argument, reality based, identifying a problem that we are all experiencing. it is a very real problem. it is not one the president can dispute. it is their best argument. john dewey always said, a problem well-stated is a problem half-solved. we do agree, we must agree that the jobs crisis is one of the core policy choices of the era we...
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we want to hear about the economy. we want to hear about jobs. we want to hear about that we're going to get health care instead of having to go to the, you know, to the e.r. to get our health care. >> there are estimates romney would have to win 40% of the latino vote to carry florida. so he's going to have to, i guess he's going down and dirty to increase those numbers. you're saying there's no way it's going to work. >> well, he's obviously, what i mean by he's paying attention to -- is because, look, on the first day of early voting, we, the democrats, actually turned out so many people, and we have every day consistently, that we actually surpassed our 2008 numbers. so it was so shocking to them to see, after telling everybody, oh, we have no momentum, our people are not excited, and yet we have people standing out in lines for three hours. >> yeah. >> waiting to vote right here in south florida which is our heavy, heavy voting area. >> annette, if you were to break out the state, the panhandle pretty much republican. the middle of the state
we want to hear about the economy. we want to hear about jobs. we want to hear about that we're going to get health care instead of having to go to the, you know, to the e.r. to get our health care. >> there are estimates romney would have to win 40% of the latino vote to carry florida. so he's going to have to, i guess he's going down and dirty to increase those numbers. you're saying there's no way it's going to work. >> well, he's obviously, what i mean by he's paying attention...
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i'm worried about the impact on our economy and on transportation. the election will take care of itself next week. >> as for governor romney, around noon eastern time today, the romney campaign announced it is canceled all planned events tomorrow in wisconsin and florida out of what it calls, quote, sensitivity for the millions of americans in the storm's path. the governor did campaign in ohio this morning and will hold a rally in iowa later today. >> we have faced these kind of challenges before, and as we have, it's interesting to see how americans come together. this looks like another time when we need to come together, all across the country, even here in ohio and make sure that we give of our support to the people who need it. >> an emergency declarations have been signed in eight states along the east coast. new york city meantime now bracing for the worst of the storm. nbc meteorologist bill karins is tracking it all for us. he joins me live from lower manhattan. bill, right now two major tunnels close later today. the holland tunnel that c
i'm worried about the impact on our economy and on transportation. the election will take care of itself next week. >> as for governor romney, around noon eastern time today, the romney campaign announced it is canceled all planned events tomorrow in wisconsin and florida out of what it calls, quote, sensitivity for the millions of americans in the storm's path. the governor did campaign in ohio this morning and will hold a rally in iowa later today. >> we have faced these kind of...
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>> well, i mean, he says it remains a bad economy which is not growing fast enough. i would actually give him one of the talking points you took. it's true people rejoined the labor force this month but a lot have dropped out of it since four years ago. the problem with the talking point, the problem with all of romney talking points is the entire economy is not about obama. romney does appear to believe the president has magic definitive powers about -- >> that is the central irony of this man's claim, isn't it? >> a couple years ago when george w. bush is being blamed for a weak economy, nothing like the one he bequeathed to president obama, romney said it is ridiculous to blame a president for a weak economy given that he came in during a recession. i mean, what was president bush supposed to do? recession began a little after he came in. of course it wasn't his fault. when he was president -- or when he was governor, i'm sorry, he said the fact that they didn't have very good job growth in the first 11 months of his term couldn't be blamed on him. he had just got
>> well, i mean, he says it remains a bad economy which is not growing fast enough. i would actually give him one of the talking points you took. it's true people rejoined the labor force this month but a lot have dropped out of it since four years ago. the problem with the talking point, the problem with all of romney talking points is the entire economy is not about obama. romney does appear to believe the president has magic definitive powers about -- >> that is the central irony...
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right in and out the focus is on the economy. an interesting statistic in the latest poll was over a third of latinos say if president obama gets re-elected, he's not going to do anything. so apathy with regards to immigration and the same thing with romney. right now the focus is on the economy and latinos also know that immigration right now is dictated largely at the on local level because there's a stalemate in washington. i think the eye is on the state legislatures rather than on congress or the executive. even if president obama gets re-elected, he's likely going to have the same makeup in congress. >> victoria defrancesco soto, thanks so much. >> we're having fun with newark's mayor and his tendency to pitch in when bad weather strikes. dave weigel writes hurricane hitting new jersey. cory booker was hastily removing shirt and running into phone booths. there's a great resource available, check out weather.com. if you lose power and have internet service, weather.com will stream the weather channel live. s copies of my ac
right in and out the focus is on the economy. an interesting statistic in the latest poll was over a third of latinos say if president obama gets re-elected, he's not going to do anything. so apathy with regards to immigration and the same thing with romney. right now the focus is on the economy and latinos also know that immigration right now is dictated largely at the on local level because there's a stalemate in washington. i think the eye is on the state legislatures rather than on congress...
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republicans were push punished there for the state of economy. think about the auto bailout and the lower unemployment rate there, and i think there is a reward for obama for the sense among those voters that things are getting a little better here than maybe they otherwise would be. >> in a state that feels like it has not been than the country economically for a while, and you cannot understate how important the auto bailout political dynamic has been there. last week after she squabbled over exactly what romney said about the bailout in his op-ed, that was the most viewed "new york times" op-ed. the romney campaign is trying to project strength in ohio. john kasich came out and said romney will win ohio, but the tactics really speak and are telling a different story. they released an ad that is highly misleading. i'd love to play just that install clip of thatted. >> mitt romney has a plan to help the auto industry. he is supported by lee iacocca and the troy news. obama took gm and chrysler to bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italens that will
republicans were push punished there for the state of economy. think about the auto bailout and the lower unemployment rate there, and i think there is a reward for obama for the sense among those voters that things are getting a little better here than maybe they otherwise would be. >> in a state that feels like it has not been than the country economically for a while, and you cannot understate how important the auto bailout political dynamic has been there. last week after she...
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the economy is a long, long way from being healthy. financial crises do enormous damage. and some of that is very difficult to prevent. but we also had a case in which while washington did i think objectively a very good job of responding to the crisis, in 2009, in 2010 and '11 they -- their glasses were a little rose colored and i think we shouldn't be too optimistic based on how many times we've been disappointed over the economy in the last couple years. >> what do you think about the research done by vince rhinehart and others suggesting when you have a recession, a deep recession, caused by a financial crisis, that the comeback is much more shallow and that the bounce back is not as immediate? >> that's right. so it's by carmen rhinehart and ken roguehoff. >> i got the names wrong. >> it's easy to conflate them. but it's really important. i mean what it shows is that a recession after a financial crisis tends to last years. typically the unemployment rate over all financial crises has risen more than five years. we are well ahead of that pace thanks to aggressive act
the economy is a long, long way from being healthy. financial crises do enormous damage. and some of that is very difficult to prevent. but we also had a case in which while washington did i think objectively a very good job of responding to the crisis, in 2009, in 2010 and '11 they -- their glasses were a little rose colored and i think we shouldn't be too optimistic based on how many times we've been disappointed over the economy in the last couple years. >> what do you think about the...
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. >> it is still all about the economy. >> we've made real progress. >> you've got this jobs report, the unemployment report. >> definitely a strong jobs report. >> stronger than expected. >> that's good. >> unemployment is higher today than when barack obama took office. >> he is about as hollow as the tin man. >> if we don't run candy crowley, romney will be the nominee and he'll lose. >>> we begin tonight with the latest on the recovery from the devastation of hurricane sandy. nbc news has now confirmed 94 deaths from the storm. more than half of those killed, 48 died in the state of new york. of that 48 in the state, 40 deaths occurred here in new york city. and of those 40 new york city deaths, more than half, 22, occurred in the borough that was the hardest hit. staten island. it's greater than every other state hit by the storm. in new jersey, 13 died. 11 people died in maryland. there were seven deaths in pennsylvania. west virginia lost six people, four people died in connecticut, in north carolina two died and one person died in puerto rico. speaking to reporters today on s
. >> it is still all about the economy. >> we've made real progress. >> you've got this jobs report, the unemployment report. >> definitely a strong jobs report. >> stronger than expected. >> that's good. >> unemployment is higher today than when barack obama took office. >> he is about as hollow as the tin man. >> if we don't run candy crowley, romney will be the nominee and he'll lose. >>> we begin tonight with the latest on the...
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the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. >>> one thing is for sure, both campaigns for president aren't endingen a high note by any means. candor media looked back at the last week of campaign ads anned obama campaign commercials have been 85% negative you think that sounds bad until you look at the what the romney campaign has done in the last week. the romney ads have been 99% negative. 99%. and most of the 1% of positive ads were some lingering ads in spanish. so a
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the economy and recovery here. is a message like that affectefe with all the haze going on right now? should is that argument been sealed weeks ago, or if not longer than that? >> in the battlegrounds that have been impacted by the storm, i'm not sure what's going to penetrate over the next three or four days. we're talking about a much bigger map in places like wisconsin, nevada, colorado where you're going to have, i think in lieu of the principals, you have surrogates like president clinton going there speaking, it does have an impact. talking about the jobs and the president's agenda on the recovery but taking the country in a better place in the next four years as far as the middle class, that is a powerful message in the coming last days. >> absolutely. erin you referred to that ad in pennsylvania. it was 1.7 million if my mind is serving me correct right now. let me play this new ad from a romney campaign in pennsylvania. >> by the way, i like coal. people in the coal industry feel like it's getting crushed
the economy and recovery here. is a message like that affectefe with all the haze going on right now? should is that argument been sealed weeks ago, or if not longer than that? >> in the battlegrounds that have been impacted by the storm, i'm not sure what's going to penetrate over the next three or four days. we're talking about a much bigger map in places like wisconsin, nevada, colorado where you're going to have, i think in lieu of the principals, you have surrogates like president...
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we need a grownup and someone to understand the economy. so i'm glad mitt can be this gronup to all. >> ha, ha, ha. with all the president has done across the world from bin laden? he's not a grown-up? the implications are offensive when you see them in debates acting all cordial to the president. >> it's a little more. ann romney isn't running by president but romney by extension believes the president isn't a grown-up by comparing him to one of his sons during the presidential debate. this is insensitive, given the 2008 was historical election, first african-american president, not just disparaging to the man barack obama but disparaging to the office. shame on her. what david was saying earlier when we were talking about mitt romney wanting to turn back the clock. he sounds like the robert be behrens believes hard work is only by the fat cat on wall street. he's not talking about the work stimulus, the auto bailout, main street. his definition of business is only about wall street. >> he's also trying to make himself appeal more moderate
we need a grownup and someone to understand the economy. so i'm glad mitt can be this gronup to all. >> ha, ha, ha. with all the president has done across the world from bin laden? he's not a grown-up? the implications are offensive when you see them in debates acting all cordial to the president. >> it's a little more. ann romney isn't running by president but romney by extension believes the president isn't a grown-up by comparing him to one of his sons during the presidential...
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when it comes to jobs, and the economy is the most important thing. guess what, in new jersey, the economy just got a hell of a lot tougher. and it's all about laerpd right now. and i hope that president obama and chris christie really by display giving an example to lawmakers who said that they were going to washington to work on behalf of constituents, because i think that we are seeing some real leadership right now, and i think that they can have an impact. and i think it would be good for constituents around the country now to ask the questions of those who are running for office, can you do what those two guys are doing? get your cell phones out? i want to know what you think. tonight's question. do you approve of the federal government's response following hurricane sandy? text "a" for yes, "b" for no to 622639. you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. joining me tonight, new jersey senator robert menendez. he, of course, was with president obama and governor chris christie today. senator,
when it comes to jobs, and the economy is the most important thing. guess what, in new jersey, the economy just got a hell of a lot tougher. and it's all about laerpd right now. and i hope that president obama and chris christie really by display giving an example to lawmakers who said that they were going to washington to work on behalf of constituents, because i think that we are seeing some real leadership right now, and i think that they can have an impact. and i think it would be good for...
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economy. lots to talk about here because not only is there the damage to consider but the business disruption that it has created throughout the northeast. joining me is jared bernstein former chief economist for vice president joe biden, also an msnbc contributor. jared, as we look over these estimates and they're really rough now in the very beginning. >> very rough. >> sandy could cost when it's all said and done, the total $20 billion or more. exceeding the damage certainly from irene last year which was about 12 to $16 billion. meantime moody's an lytics estimate economic losses will total $10 billion a day, lost wages, production, sales for businesses. do you think that estimate is on target? >> yeah, i think that estimate is on target but i believe moody's said they're not going to alter their estimate for gdp in the fourth quarter because some of this will be made up and also some of this stuff that gets destroyed you have to put people to work to rebuild it. that actually adds to gros
economy. lots to talk about here because not only is there the damage to consider but the business disruption that it has created throughout the northeast. joining me is jared bernstein former chief economist for vice president joe biden, also an msnbc contributor. jared, as we look over these estimates and they're really rough now in the very beginning. >> very rough. >> sandy could cost when it's all said and done, the total $20 billion or more. exceeding the damage certainly from...
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some had it smaller. >> quickly, they say the economy is improving and according to the polls most give president obama a credit for. >> we're actually seeing that people voting for president obama supporting him in polls optimistic and bullish on the state of the economy. if you're a romney voter or you're leaning towards romney in the polls probably have the opposite view. that's where we're going to see in the exit polls come november 6th. >> all right. thank you very much. we appreciate it. taking the audience to breaking news. new video, president obama walking off the helicopter after the aerial tour of new jersey with governor chris christie right there who's certainly been praising the president's response to the storm. we'll hear from the two of them likely within the hour. or very soon. about to take a ground tour. imagine they're talking with people who lost everything or much of what they have. so we'll bring it to you. another image of the day likely the image so many will be talking about and maybe leading up to the election. one of the chief surrogates for governor romney
some had it smaller. >> quickly, they say the economy is improving and according to the polls most give president obama a credit for. >> we're actually seeing that people voting for president obama supporting him in polls optimistic and bullish on the state of the economy. if you're a romney voter or you're leaning towards romney in the polls probably have the opposite view. that's where we're going to see in the exit polls come november 6th. >> all right. thank you very much....
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and lat inamerica's economy is almost as large as that of china. there's a large middle class and growing middle class. this is a big opportunity for us to trade and expand the sales of our goods and services in latin america. but by the way, if nations cheat, and china has cheated over the years, that has to stop. we can't let them steal our jobs with unfair trade practices. number three -- >> mitt romney on the tump thst there at a campaign event in tampa, florida. 29 electoral votes up for grabs in florida where both sides tell you it's razor thin and could go either way. we want to take you back to the aftermath of superstorm sandy. take a look at this, this is what president obama can expect to see when he visits the hard-hit area of atlantic city, new jersey, this afternoon. homes destroyed, boats tossed on their sides and parts of the iconic boardwalk completely damaged. at one point 85% of the city was submerged in water. joining me by phone is atlantic city's mayor, lorenzo langford. sir, git's good to have you her. your director of emerge
and lat inamerica's economy is almost as large as that of china. there's a large middle class and growing middle class. this is a big opportunity for us to trade and expand the sales of our goods and services in latin america. but by the way, if nations cheat, and china has cheated over the years, that has to stop. we can't let them steal our jobs with unfair trade practices. number three -- >> mitt romney on the tump thst there at a campaign event in tampa, florida. 29 electoral votes up...
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do people feel like the economy is getting better? is getting better? are things looking better? if you look in states that matter, places like ohio where the economy has gotten substantially better and they can pinpoint why. if you're in michigan or ohio you can point to that reason why, and that reason why has barack obama's name on it. >> if you listen to the little clips we played, it seems as though barack obama is energized -- >> that's apparent. >> mitt romney is going through the motions. >> let's go to the facts here we have on the table. i love the atmospherics. let's go to this peaking question. dick nixon, richard nixon, he was a smart politician as they go, and he used to believe -- he didn't want to the run all out. he said you have to peak at the right time. he almost caught kennedy. he was three days late. three more days he might have caught him. humphrey almost caught nixon in '68. these elections go through rhythms. >> mitt romney peaked exactly where john kerry peaked in 2004, the first debate. they both had a first great debate, got a great bounce, and it dis
do people feel like the economy is getting better? is getting better? are things looking better? if you look in states that matter, places like ohio where the economy has gotten substantially better and they can pinpoint why. if you're in michigan or ohio you can point to that reason why, and that reason why has barack obama's name on it. >> if you listen to the little clips we played, it seems as though barack obama is energized -- >> that's apparent. >> mitt romney is going...
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i'm worried about the impact on our economy and on transportation. you know, the ee lx will take care itself. >> how big of an impact is the hurricane to have in voters' minds, cynthia? >> first of all, the presidential's statement was pitch perfect. i am here in my capacity as president of the united states to support everyone. those who will vote for me and those who will not. but i think it's also true that mitt romney must be feeling a little bit frustrated by the fact that viewers are, first of all, going to see reports mostly about the hurricane and its development. when they hear from officials, it will be governors and mayors in his capacity as the commander in chief. and so it throws both campaigns off a bit but it throws mitt romney off more because he has less opportunity now to get his message out because people are preoccupied with this huge weather event. >> richard, the most campaigns are frozen. >> yep. >> who loses the most? cynthia says it's romney. what do you say? >> look, i don't think either of them planned for this. certainly i
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and we saw what happened with the economy. that's the story line that seems to be the finishing argument for the president. >> well, that's right. and mitt romney, his closing speech, what he has actually been saying on the stump is that he is the candidate of change that if he is elected, things will change and change for the better. but you've actually see from president obama as well as former president bill clinton the message that mitt romney and the policies that he actually ends up standing for, and that's actually tax cuts for the wealthy, and also to get rid of a lot of regulations is the same thing that actually was practiced in the george w. bush administration. president obama isn't using george w. bush's name, but the message is actually pretty crystal clear. and you're seeing these two competing closing arguments at the very end. >> with that being the argument from the president that, you know, especially before hurricane sandy it was when mitt romney unveiled this notion that he is the change candidate here, ho
and we saw what happened with the economy. that's the story line that seems to be the finishing argument for the president. >> well, that's right. and mitt romney, his closing speech, what he has actually been saying on the stump is that he is the candidate of change that if he is elected, things will change and change for the better. but you've actually see from president obama as well as former president bill clinton the message that mitt romney and the policies that he actually ends up...
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joining me now, hitha prabhakar a retail and economy analyst. good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> let's talk about yesterday's jobs numbers which were better than expected. can you break it down? >> jobs, about 171,000 jobs were added to the job pool. and that actually bumps the numbers up from 7.8% to 7.9%. the reason why there, they're jobs that were added, but really, there were more people in the pool that were applying for work that didn't end up going in to and actually getting work. so that's why we're seeing that bump up in that jobs number. >> okay. you know the numbers i'm hearing as a result of hurricane sandy, the costs, are just astronomic. can you break that down? >> in the beginning they were estimating that the storm was going to cost around $20 billion. now they're saying it's going to be between $30 billion to $50 billion. and one of the reasons why is because of all the electrical problems, and all the road closures. people can't get to -- get to businesses, they can't get to work. they can't get supplies. so that's really
joining me now, hitha prabhakar a retail and economy analyst. good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> let's talk about yesterday's jobs numbers which were better than expected. can you break it down? >> jobs, about 171,000 jobs were added to the job pool. and that actually bumps the numbers up from 7.8% to 7.9%. the reason why there, they're jobs that were added, but really, there were more people in the pool that were applying for work that didn't end up going in to and...
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i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. massmutual. we'll help you get there. >>> the captains of industry who run american automobile companies have a word for people like mitt romney. liar. >>> and next, in the spotlight, mitt romney's campaign said they weren't holding any political events today and then they held a political event. >>> and if the romney campaign was shut down today, what was john mccain doing in ohio attacking the president? karen finney and jonathan capehart will join me on that one, next. jack, you're a little boring. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi® card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts. more events. mo
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its economy's not doing bem christie was not a shoo-in before this. >> right. >> and it's not clear yet that he's going to get big props from voters for the way he handled this. he did well in the first few days but in my neighborhood people don't have any power. >> right. it's not over yet. >> if it takes weeks to get power back on, if there are other problems, then people are going to react harshly to chris christie. >> that tells you why the optics are so important. >> it might not help the president so much if on monday there's not some signs of a little bit of progress if people are getting angry and frustrated. >> karen finney is still stuck in hours of traffic. >> it's a huge parse for him. in a fluid situation you never know. >> goodness. let me just say, jonathan, to your point, it is not over. and this is a developing situation and it's very serious situation. and there are a lot of people in need and, again, the toll has been extraordinary. so, you know, we shouldn't try to tie this up with a bow when we talk about political optics. >> and it will be for a long time to come.
its economy's not doing bem christie was not a shoo-in before this. >> right. >> and it's not clear yet that he's going to get big props from voters for the way he handled this. he did well in the first few days but in my neighborhood people don't have any power. >> right. it's not over yet. >> if it takes weeks to get power back on, if there are other problems, then people are going to react harshly to chris christie. >> that tells you why the optics are so...
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i know he understands the economy. >> he's uniquely qualified to get our economy moving again. >> takes control. >> not a stuffed shirt guy. >> charismatic. >> he is rock solid. >> authentic leader. >> he knows he's one of the guys that can do what it takes to turn this country around. >> as reported here last night, romney campaign chief strategist stuart stevens explained the use of the video this way -- "i don't know what happened. some volunteer just pressed play, i guess." by the time mitt romney was doing this fake disaster relief event, he knew that he was not welcome anywhere near the real disaster zone. he learned that the hard way that morning on "fox and friends." >> is there any possibility that governor romney may go to new jersey to tour some of the damage with you? >> i have no idea, nor am i the least bit concerned or interested. >> right. >> i've got a job to do here in new jersey that's much bigger than presidential politics. if you think right now i give a damn about presidential politics, then you don't know me. >> yesterday mitt romney was surely still hoping he too
i know he understands the economy. >> he's uniquely qualified to get our economy moving again. >> takes control. >> not a stuffed shirt guy. >> charismatic. >> he is rock solid. >> authentic leader. >> he knows he's one of the guys that can do what it takes to turn this country around. >> as reported here last night, romney campaign chief strategist stuart stevens explained the use of the video this way -- "i don't know what happened. some...
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we're dealing with wanting to fix the economy, and there is no right answer. and even within our own health care team at aei, we have a lot of different approaches. some of those, just to speak categorically, some of those are incremental. they're about fixing health care as we find it today. and others are much more broadbrush. let's start over. a couple of our scholars are very focused on scrap the whole theme, repeal and replace, very, very systematic sort of control the lead on health care. i'm not one of those folks at aei. i'm one of those folks who is very much focused on let's deal with the plan as we find it. let's deal with the system the way it is. and that's why jim and i have a difference of opinion on this idea. >> you know, j.d., i think the republican response, the conservative response to the affordable care act is symptomatic of something broader. to me it has badly damaged the credibility of the conservative movement over the past few years. that is if the obama presidency, i would say it's moderate. it's been incremental. you look at the he
we're dealing with wanting to fix the economy, and there is no right answer. and even within our own health care team at aei, we have a lot of different approaches. some of those, just to speak categorically, some of those are incremental. they're about fixing health care as we find it today. and others are much more broadbrush. let's start over. a couple of our scholars are very focused on scrap the whole theme, repeal and replace, very, very systematic sort of control the lead on health care....